EP 19: What Physicians are Thinking Today and Tips to Increase Referrals


In this episode, James talks with doctor Kenneth Moses, MD a 20 year primary care physician.


  • What primary care physicians think PT’s actually do.
  • Why primary care physicians don’t refer to physical therapy as much…
  • How this physician makes decisions on who he sends patients to.
  • What physicians think about the, “No More Pills” campaign being put out by physical therapists.
  • What PT/OT’s can do to increase physician awareness of PT/OT services and potentially increase referrals.


  1. How often do patients ask physicians where they should go for PT/OT?
  2. Do doctor’s google when trying to find a clinic to send to?
  3. A very unique marketing idea that PT/OT’s can do to educate primary care physicians and potentially increase referrals.

About the author 

James Ko

James Ko is the lead instructor and founder of IndeFree. He's a physical therapist of over 20 years and have owned 7 private practices and is launching a national chain. He's worked with some of the world's most celebrated athletes, actresses, and X-Game competitors. More importantly, he knows what it's like to fail and succeed. He enjoys reading James Patterson and Nicolas Sparks, and likes to golf, play the guitar and practice martial arts. He loves playing with my Mac and Cozy most of all!

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